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Honestly the favourite detachment for CSM so far!! I really thought I was not gonna like it.... I was all in for others like RR or Soulforged, but after simply testing this it was soooooo much fun!! The dark Gods have blessed us!

Watch the Wargames Live stream from the ACO a few weeks ago. Guy went 7-1 and was on stream 3 times with cults. Definitely a sleeper army

I loathe the fact that Dark Commune civilians are better than a Dark Apostle space marine.

I think someone recently took first in a tournament with this detachment.

Just started this, but was wondering when you were gonna do this one. 😁

Low key might be the best detachment if your wallet and sanity can handle it. Peak Chaos

Great tips. Thank you! Blood for the algorythm! 😁

Why the annihilator instead of the destructor? With the buffs to the wound roll wouldn't that be enough

These videos on the detachment guides have been amazing! Well done on the work Dean. A huge amount goes into these and we appreciate it a lot

A Chaos Lord with hammer, Cursed Fang, in Legionaries is a good character killer. The Lord picks uo the Legionaries' wound reroll rule, so depending on the situation you can go fishing for Devastating Wounds. I got a Terminator Captain & Helbrecht in one game with the same hammer lord doing that. I also stacked From All Sides with a Terminator Sorcerer to land a charge with Terminators in the enemy backfield and stole their home objective. A 6" rerollable charge out of deep strike is a nasty shock.

Just to puntualize, that the "no fall back strat" don't work on vehicle or monster.

Thanks for the upload, castles dont worry however, every time i have that the enemy just uses the insane of of cover to be free from firing, even if they give up a side, they will take the other and you will find that castle is just too expensive and you loose points. No one went near vash and the castle and had plenty of cover to hide, its was a quarter to third of my army being ignored. A good player will ignore them, though strong if line of sight. FF at 190 really dont do much unless some noob custodes player stays in the open. this is a detachment that needs alot of play opposed to theory craft. This is ALOT of theory craft, your a good player, try and it and you will see what i mean,

Just a note, the go-through-walls stratagem says vehicle no daemon enginge. You can use it on other things as well

Looks really cool!

I fancy the look of the Alpha Legion analogue, but my tactical skills rarely extend to anything much beyond, "Smash, and keep smashing, until there's nothing left to Smash," which this detachment accommodates, splendidly. 2 more Mauler Friends and a Vindicator are in the mail.

i have my first game using my World Eaters in a few weeks, this video is beyond helpful for me. Thank you so much for putting this out.

Hi! Great video! I watched also your video on the Deceptors. My question would be: would you rather go with VOLW or Deceptors against a Custodes army (2 tanks + spam of bulky Custodes)? (GW deployment). I think, that the horde of 3x20 infiltrating cultist and 3x10 infiltrating Legionaries would be very annoying for the Custodes, as the opponents list wont have too much fly keyword models. So I would stop them for 1-2 turns, and sticky the no mans land objectives, and do a lots of secondary with raptors and legionaries. Altough the VOLW list would have a much bigger damage output with the detachment rule. What is your opinion about that? Thank you in advance! Best wishes, Adam from Hungary

I used this detachment in a upcoming battle report. Makes Vemoncrawlers are so good! Great video dude. IRON WITHIN. IRON WITHOUT!

Great stuff Dean 👍 I'd mention allies though, such as blue horrors which I think play nicely as support behind the main line with their -1 to morale, and stuff causing battleshock tests, such as the Khorne skull cannon.

Would have loved it if the Daemonic Possession strat was a 2 CP one, that also granted a 5+ Invulnerable save like other Demon engines have :-) Fun detachment, but largely due to horrible dice rolling with it so far, I'm at 0-2 with it.

I really need a chaos lord with a jet pack. Im currently using 1.) Haarken 2.) Fabius Bile 3.) 20 raptors 4.) 15 warp talons 5.) 10 chosen or 20 legionaries (for fabius biles buff) 6.) 2 daemon princes 7.) 9 termies and a lord 8.) forgefiend I normally play 2000-3000 point games. Thats my goto list if imma run a tournament. Otherwise ill throw 30 noise marines in there and get loud lol. I cant wait for EC to get something new.

I find your lack of defilers disturbing.

You don't need to use Possession to use Unstoppable Rampage. It works on Heretic Astartes Vehicles.

I’ll get to it tomorrow. Bed time. Have to get up early at BGU. Ok, Professor. Forgot to put up the rank chart on the chalk board. It’s #2 after Vets. Otherwise I agree with everything here. Strong detachment but can do a lot of damage to itself. Definitely need action monkeys. Is it worth replacing the Predator for something else to save the CP cost? Another VC or maukerfiend? But so unique compared to the other detachments. After all of these are done, a what would I do to fix each detachment would be nice.

Vashtorr got a glow up and hits at str 13 ap-2 DMG 3, with anti-vehicle 4+ and dev wounds. He actually slaps anything that's not a monster. He has a high chance of killing most characters in melee when swinging sustained hits with strike profile.

List is already out of date. :( I just added this up and got 2050 points.

if you dont start adding time marks on these long but good videos, your gonna lose me, seems lazy for long videos that you didnt divide them

you really need to start adding sections on the video, or atleast time marks its hard to find specific parts on long videos.

this is my fave detachment so far. ive found a lot of stuff that works, the obvious warpsmith castle with addendum enhancement, defiler coming from reserves, daemon rhino wounds on 2s lmao. although he doesnt get the rules deepstriking vashtorr to give someone a good sqaushing has been successful the only issue i had was the infantry so a bunch of 3 cultist mobs does a lot but ive been taking 2 dark communes with 8 accursed cultists in each becaue they dont need any support from strats once per game adv charge +1 to hit and wound they can be particularly nasty and 5++6+++ they are very survivable to push forward and protect your engines. unfortunately havent had a lot of luck with maulerfiend but forgey and venomcrawler both really shine

Whooo cannot wait for chaos cults

Hell yeah brother 🤘

God, I play twice a month and haven't won a game since April last year. I play world eaters and death guard and I'm really trying to learn but it's just not happening. I'll give it a little bit longer then just throw in the towel I think. I know it shouldn't be about just winning but it's hard to keep playing when all you do is lose all the time. Thanks for your help regardless, best 40k content on UA-cam so keep going mate.😊

Cursed fang should be at least a 2/3 and for armies that are charactor heavy Def a 3/3.

This detachment is one of my favourites in the book, I'm bringing it to Geelong on the weekend. It is hands down tbe best detachment for allying in daemons. Blue Horrors + Changeling is the best. Poxbringer + Plaguebearers are okay. I am using daemonettes and a tranceweaver as a deepstrike assassin unit.

My favorite combo that I've been toying with is Warp-Fueled Thrusters in a squad of 10 Raptors. 4 Meltas and Screaming Descent makes for a great middle finger to tanks.

Missing out on tons of ways to add bs. Blue horrors with a changecaster. Thr changling. Noise marines. Prince with wings. Vashtorr. Jump lord with warp, full raptors with 4 meltas doing the up and down. Do a 3" deep strike and blast with the meltas and leave is great. Vashtorr is an auto include. Dealing out hazardous to anything that shoots him, huge survivability and the reactive charge. Big movement. Prince with wings on willpower and him. Would be a huge wombo.

Gotta say i'm dissapointed by this video, not only is it completly out of date (delaying it would have been fine) it just doesn't help me at all getting the best out of this rules, the sticky terminators are probably the only I good combo i haven't heard everywhere on the reviews, this one's supposed to be a Masterclass. I get this is not one of the best detachment and battleshock is unreliable, but we have tons of ways to force multiple battle-shocks with -1 and even -2 and a +8 bs is way harder than a simple +6. I would have liked to hear from you what tools we could use to make battle-shock more reliable or how how to squeeze some eficiency from the rules we have. I'm a big fan and I know that if someone can find those is you.

I concur with pretty much everything you've said. I miss a lot of things from prior editions (Lone op, DS turn 1, fight first, auto 6 once per turn, etc...), but I think It has potential. If I can suggest something, I think that Huron Blackheart greatly benefits the detachment with the "redeploy-back to reserves" ability regardless of the points in reserves, for those blobs of Termis or Big units in general

Not say this is true, but are you saving the daemon engine detachment for last because it's your favorite? Blink twice for "yes"

Haarken was one of my first models... Do you think he's any good in this detachment or shall I run him as a jump pack lord?

Really disappointed on how they could roll out some of these detachments after play testing. Battle shock disappointed and Strats. Should be similar to this as Nightlords are based on shadow and fear. Main rule Fear Us: Charging a unit causes a battleshock test, add -1 if unit is below starting strength and -2 if below 1/2 strength. And then Strats should be 1. Shadow Strike if you charged a unit, after the fight phase you can fall back 6” or 12” if a jump or mounted 2. Fear the Shadows: If a unit is battleshocked, add 1 to the hit roll. If below 1/2 strength increase it to 2. 3. Fear the Unknown: Reduce the OC of a non battleshocked unit on a contested objective by 2. 4. Into the shadows: reduce an enemy units melee hit roll by 1 or Reduce an enemy units range hit roll by 2 if 18” or greater.

Good video. I think this detachment should be built flexible, as it is quite opportunistic due to random battle shock. I would heavily recommend Havocs in Rhinos here. They probably make the best use out of the reroll hits and wounds stratagem. Their lascannons are also the best anti vehicle this detachment can offer. Chaincannons could make minced meat out of hordes too. I haven't considered the terminator block, but it seems quite cool. Though I would never spend any points on willbreaker. It will do nothing in 99% of games. I also think Dread Talons make good use out of allies, especially Tzeench. Blue horrors are battleline, and provide a further -1 to leadership. The changeling is a great lone op that synnergizes wonderfully here too

I'm going to assume this was made before the latest dataslate?

I see you don't mention the prospect of allies from Knights and Demons, I take it that you don't see their support being noteworthy enough to improve the detachments standing competitively?

I'm trying night lords this weekend. Can't wait to do a Collab broski, it might be 3 hours long lol

Battleshock needs some serious fine tuning, if it's ever going to be as pivotal as it should be.

I played 4 games with the lord of skulls so far. He does the damage to get angron back. But the anti tank of tau and space marines made it a bit harder to deal with. What would you do against that?

A character with Soul Link can not copy the Dark Apostle's datasheet, since the +1 to wound specifies needing a model w/ the Dark Apostle name and since Soul Link does not copy the name you wouldn't get the +1 to wound in melee. Same with the Dark Commune.

Not exciting and cagey playstyle. Iron Warriors approve.

someone needs to give that cat a treat lol.🤣